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We hope that in the merit of our all of the families all those should have together look after our brothers and sisters should allow our holy soldiers to be successful say with that let us let us begin let's 2:31 begin today's we are picking up on days and we are about to enter into a significant roller coaster over here let's begin so we actually started yesterday with let's begin which is two four six lines up. 2:51 So again remember again whereas we had on the position of Rafa and Rafa said that again remember how did this case all start will do it later if it's good. So, so how how did this case how did this whole case start? Right? This whole thing started where Ruben's walking by. 3:08 He sees Shim's animal crouched down in front of the Zoro. He goes ahead and he shifts one of the of the animal whatever the case was leaving aside. Right. The went through a number of different iterations, but what what's the animal? 3:26 Why is basing himself on? And oolah says even though normally if you bow down to your friend's animal you have you can't asser your friend's animal if you do a ultimately that goes ahead and makes the friend's animals fine and rab obviously cutting one of the is the raun's entire idea is premised is predicated on the concept that a person can ask for something that does 3:50 not belong to him now the introduces another school of thought no you can't ask her something that does not belong to you says one busy guy. So right remember we saw this case yesterday person goes in on shabas outside of the for one for violation of shabas one for violation of let's write sh outside and 4:20 one for violation of okay now how did we set this up what was the problem remember again what was our problem with this case our problem with this case is I don't understand why would you be in violation of if again the moment you begin to shift it for ultimately again it's that means it's no longer a carbon if it's no longer a carbon there should be only two violations for shabas and for but not 4:45 for so the set this case up as a case where we're creating sim excuse me simultaneity so the says how did we set this we set this up as only requires one sim and remember half of the trachea was already cut so you say next par starting tomorrow a traus We're going to see it 50% of the trachea is cut. It is not a traa. It's not a tra. So because it's 5:11 not a tra therefore when you cut that extra little bit amount everything is happening simultaneously right. So the carbon itself is getting and is happening there's simultaneity. The says so the reason this case works is because it's a case of where they're simultane 5:36 50% of the trachea is already cut which means with that one with that one additional we'll call it that 1% additional cut everything is happening at the same time it's being shafted right it's being shafted for and is also being offered up for a des so the says top of me a zeb off but ultimately again remember this case would not work with a carbon 6:02 so the one second now I don't understand if a person really can't answer something which does not belong to him then I understand that even you could set up the case as well right in other words look at Rash for just a moment says again say at the end of the day at the end of the day if we hold that a person can't answer something that does not 6:34 belong to them then you don't have to set up as a bird it could be a regular carbon why because again you don't have the power to make that carbon into or I should say to take away the carbonic identity and fully replace it with a zora identity You have the power to make it into all the right but you don't have the power to remove identity. So what's the problem? to 6:58 which says no no no it's different because since we're dealing with right and since provides so since it bless you since it provides it's as if it belongs to you in some way there's some level there's some level of ownership and because there's some level of ownership this is not this is not an issue of shalom so because there's a because 7:23 there's a quasi ownership because kapara is affected for you through this carbon Therefore, we're back to the problem of if it becomes before it's fully identity replaces the identity. Okay. 7:44 So we'll say if two people are holding on to the knife and and one of them has in mind for one of these all desire things and has in mind for totally good things but I will say again what's I don't understand just because Ruv has in mind for why should Ruain be able to answer an animal that's not his to once again to 8:10 which says no no how come I No, no, no. Ruin is not just an assistant, but rather what is ruin is a partner. So because he's a partner, he is able to ask for something which does not belong to him. So this is a very interesting case. You've seen this case actually number of times before. Natami means one goes ahead and I I go over to Ruven. Ruven has tal whatever his tal are uh truma 8:39 mister whatever it might be and I I'm a I make a tummy I drop a in there right I drop a in there or says over here or what do I do I drop into ruain into ruben say what's the impact of dropping into ruins is it user it's not user but what do you have to do you have to sell to a coin. Now remember again, once you 9:06 have to sell to a coin, what does that do to the value? It diminishes it because now you have a much you have a much smaller market that you could sell it to. Okay? Or I go over to Ruben's wine and I make it make right clearly a very poor sense of humor on my part. So I will say what's if I did any of these things accidentally. 9:31 But if I do it intentionally I'm again say watch this why this is fascinating why am I putter if I do it bish why why am I doing it say listen to this this is actually fascinating rashi points out to if you look at rashi potter now again both say shake can mean a couple of different things can mean I didn't know it was user I didn't know it was to make someone's wine I didn't know that it's user to drop a sher into someone's truma 9:55 again say this is what happens you don't show up at cheer just saying I'm just saying right you lose out a lot of critical information I didn't know. I didn't know it was or or some other piece of information was just simply obscured for me. So I'm now this is very interesting. Why am I now this is very interesting because remember again what is normally if you damage someone even if you're what's 10:25 a person is always responsible for his actions. I will say one of the most incredible and hashk ideas. I am forever responsible for me. I was an accident. Remember what the says about accidents. Remember what the says should have been more careful, right? 10:46 Accidents happen. Accidents happen when people are negligent. Remember because remember if something is unavoidable that's not called shiakei. What is that called? What is it called? That's on. So there is we definitely recognizes that there are absolutely circumstances that are unavoidable. Okay, for that I'm not responsible for but accidents tremendously. So accidents I absolutely 11:09 am responsible for. Why be more vigilant even just in our own personalistic growth where we get ourselves into circumstances and then stuff happens. I but I didn't intend it. Maybe I didn't intend it, but I also wasn't careful enough to ensure it wouldn't happen. We engage in certain things. We do certain things that may in of themselves may not be may not be illicit or illegal, but 11:39 then they lead me to do things that I shouldn't be doing. Like, oh, accident. I didn't intend for it. You didn't intend for it, but I allowed myself to get into this situation. There's liability for that. There's liability for accidents, both and so now watch this. So if that's the case, why am I not if I make my friends true, if I make his tar or if I make his So this is 12:01 fascinating. Go back to This is a different case. What is this? Is so exciting. What is this? A case of Hezek damage that is not recognizable because remember I go over to Reuben's one. I make a guy infus. That's what's called damage which is not recognizing. So back around she says and is 12:42 this is very interesting and therefore again if I did it I am potter I but one second but now if I did it I'm but why if unrecognizable damage is not damage I should be whether it's ores look at the rest of important rashi rashi goes on he says supposed to listen to this. Why am I I'm because it's sort of it's it's a sort of 13:12 penalty penalty which say makes a lot of sense because if nicker was potter even if you did it be amazed can you imagine like society what would happen right I don't like ruin ruin really really just upset me I go over and I drop a sherz in his truma right or I make his wine probably not a good idea to make his wine into because then his liability for me but if I drop truma if I drop a sher 13:36 starts into his true mal. So suddenly again he's going to be so can you imagine things societ ramifications of that. So therefore again let's go back to just a second. So now I'm doing all of these things through produce but again but again how can I ask her something that's not mine? How can I make Rubain's wine when it doesn't belong to me? Once 14:00 again, we're talking about a case where I am a partner with in these items. I'm a partner. So because I'm a partner, therefore can I have a stake in it? And because I have a stake in it, therefore I have the ability ultimately to which the in reality this entire thing is a here we go. So remember we are now we are now mired knee deep in a fundamental 14:24 over here. Does a person have the ability to answer something which does not belong to them? Says yes albeit through a but now we have say no. So says in reality in reality this entire thing is a let's listen to this. So what's an this 14:51 is actually interesting case ank goes ahead and makes my wine but not in the presence of so there's no idol there's no idol present but the goes ahead and makes my wine say the wine is because of two reasons what are the two reasons Number one, this is actually very interesting. You can't make wine into 15:25 not in the presence of what that really more means is wine was not the the way was utilized is that the wine was made into the presence of the idol. It wasn't it wasn't made or this is not espousing a concept. The is talking about a reality. So number one if the idol is not there that's not how 15:48 is and number two says and next I could say to the hey buddy it's not your wine it's not your wine so because it's not your wine what right do you have to make iter say so obviously this is reflecting the view that you can't ask her something which does not belong to you. 16:20 Incredible. Incredible. So the says listen to this. So that's the that we quoted at the bottom of who hold this interesting idea. They see even according to the opinion that says that a person can answer something which does not belong to which say by the way just before we go on I just want to point out something amazing right the see what's 16:49 so beautiful about gimra is that sometimes like the drops like these little nuggets of information and you read it and you go to you're like whoa that's incredible so look what just said an a only makes yaya right ankle only creates yay when when when he's in front of his idol. Why? What's the What's the 17:15 really only for when it's in front of him? That's really what it is. In other words, is not making as much as we say really only has really only has his when it's in front of him. And I want say here in lies the fundamental distinction between a yid and ank 17:44 only thinks about when it's right in front of him. When does think about when do I not think about I don't just think about when I'm in the I don't just think about when I'm learning to I don't just think about when I'm say this is back to ultimately again I think about my goal I don't maybe always do it my goal is to 18:13 think about all the God awareness. God awareness is the key to success in spiritual living. And here in lies the fundamental distinction between the yid and the will think about his deity. Think about his idol when it's right there in front of him when it's right there in front of them. Out of sight, out of mind. But I can never stop thinking about or at 18:40 least I want to get to a level where I can never stop thinking about God awareness. Incredible. Incredible. So goes like even according to the says that a person has the ability to answer something which does not belong to them. Like said is very interesting. That's only true 19:09 by however say this is fascinating. This is fascinating. So they say even according to the opinion that say that a person can ask for something which does not belong to them. That's only by a kusi by the way could be a kusi but kusi could also mean potentially like an aum where where there's someone ultimately again who really has a nefarious intent. But if a Jew if the Jew comes along and 19:36 tries to answer my stuff, he's not really trying to answer my stuff. What is he trying to do? What is he trying to do? He's trying to annoy me, right? So if Ru comes over and says, "Hey, Sra, I just made your wine to or I just dropped the into your produce." It's like, no, come on. No, you didn't. Right. I just sh You're upset at me for whatever the reason. The dru was too long. whatever it is and therefore again and that's why 19:59 and that's why you're going ahead and you're doing it but supposed to say isn't that fascinating so it's almost like how could a Jew ever hurt another Jew how could a Jew ever hurt another Jew we annoy each other we chat for each other we go out with each other so but ultimately even according to the opinion that says that 20:25 that's only that's only in the circumstance ultimately of a but not by another Jew. So the challenges challenges two people are holding on to the knife. So ultimately again one of them one of them for a purpose of all and one of them because of ultimately again meaning proper intent. 20:56 Now what's the problem? The problem is these are two Jews and now we're just saying that intention of one will actually impact the other. But again this is passing say so beforehand the way we frame this case is that it was talking about it was talking about partners what are we talking about over here. 21:15 So this is different will be a different category. Rashi says over here it's in the wide lines about six five lines in six lines in so let's listen to this. So it could very well be so first of all the previous answer that we gave also works were their partners because if they're partners both of them have a financial interest if both of them have a financial interest in the intent of one 21:46 could answer for the other absolutely or say what's this is a Jewish unfortunately has essentially relegated himself to the status of so such a person like that when he has for that you have to take seriously and unfortunately again that you can't simply excuse You can't simply write off to people annoying or chapering each 22:09 other. Incredible. So was just restating our previous case. You make I go over to Rubin. I make his or I mix into his or I make his wine into all of these cases. 22:29 If I did a bash, right? Because remember as we saw before unrecognizable damage is not called damage if I did it if I do it intentionally ultimately again I'm going to be so says so what's so once again but this is a Jew so based on what we just said before that only or could go ahead and answer something that's not 22:54 his what's happening in this case over here once again the says what are we talking about over here is okay obviously saying which is very sad because what it is saying is that unfortunately again a Jew could do things that are so terrible that are so spiritually detrimental that he changes his fundamental status from a Jew into a different category and in that category he actually has the ability where his of 23:18 the Zara intentions are taken seriously interesting case over here what happens if we see a Jew who's about to shaft someone else's animal for the sake of ab what happens and we go ahead and we warn him we warn him don't do it is worship of abaldazar brings the death penalty and what happens 23:45 and he accepted the upon him already said what is the well if a guy accepts warning for and does it anyway then he essentially he essentially He's understanding that what he's about to do is going to bring upon him a death penalty. 24:05 There is no greater m than such a person like this. So say that person is relegated ultimately again to the status of incredible. So that is the end that is the end of this. How do we pass him? But the greatest overarching question that we still have to look at is how do we ask him in this sh can a person prohibit something which 24:28 does not belong to them. So what I'll just point out is as follows is that this question itself has actually multiple tentacles and ramifications but I just want to show it to you through the lens of so in this is the conclusion of the So we'll say this is it. This is our case. I right takes my animal and hefts my animal for 24:58 the purpose of right. So what's my animal is not why because ultimately again ruin did not have in mind for the zoro rather what did he have in mind? he had in mind just to make my life difficult just uh ju just to cause me pain right say why now now this there's two reasons for this number one 25:25 that's how he passing a person cannot prohibit something which does not belong to them that is the that is the that's number one saying number two number two is that right number is this also I think well let's see the next point then the next Now however what happens if owns the 25:47 animal together with me then what's very interesting so here in this case what happens if Ruben is a partner so here the records that if Ruben is a partner he has a financial interest and now he says he's doing it for does that the animal or not the says One opinion says yes because again now it's his he has a right to worship for 26:18 he doesn't have a right but he can make it into other opinion says no even in that case he's just trying to give me he's just trying to give me difficulty now adds in and says however if he was warned if he was warned you can't do this and he violates the warning then unfortunately he's relegated to the status of and as again as a m as a m he has the ability 26:46 to ultimately answer it. So say so this is that a person cannot ask for something which does not belong to them and therefore if a Jew comes along it takes my animal shan my animal is not going to be if we're partners that's a say I'll also just point out something different over here 27:11 if you remember again how did this whole start let's take it back let's take it back to the beginning right how did this whole thing start this whole thing started because the Mishna brought down a case where I am shafting an animal for ank right ankum owns an animal he's the owner and I'm shafting it he has for so remember again remember what was our shila our shila was does the of the 27:34 owner impact the animal or not that's the sha that's the sha say here this is in the same remember Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Actually, wrong case. We actually did this yesterday, right? 28:05 That way is the mindset of the does not impact the animal at all. And again we learned this out from pim we learn this out from the basiktod just like in the mikdash it is only the mindset of the coin doing the aod that impacts the carbon so to only the mindset of the show. Therefore say if we kind of bring this all together we now have a complete soil number one even if there's an aum owner his mindset is irrelevant when we 28:30 care about what the mindset of the sh is. If the is good to go the meat's good to go forever is his animal ultimately again it's problematic. You cannot answer something which does not belong to you and therefore if a person goes ahead and someone else's animal we just assume that is trying to make his life difficult just trying to cause 28:55 him but doesn't have the ability actually to change the status of the animal. Incredible. All right, let's go back to still we've actually seen this before. You cannot chef directly into the sea. 29:15 Into the sea. What's the issue over here? Rashi says it looks like you're making an offering to the what we call it the angel of the sea. Okay, which was an Abara, right? You can't go ahead and shack them into narrows into rivers. Same idea. Looks like you also can't go ahead and and 29:38 utensils. Now, why not? Rashi says over here because it looks like you're doing for right the notion of is very bashes. And remember, why do you do that in the Bikto? Because you need the blood for purposes. So, also has the appearance of the Zoro. So the says goes now what can you do? This is interesting. So you can go ahead and 30:04 check into like a small ditch says means like like a little hole a depression. So say so interestingly enough says so you can't right but you can go ahead and make a little like like a little ditch a ditch and go ahead and she into that. So the right interesting enough however on a boat is 30:33 interesting if you're shing on a boat so you can into a on a boat. Now what's the logic there? The logic is because remember again on a boat it's very clear why I'm shifting on a clue. Why into a cle why I don't want the blood everywhere. I'm on a boat. I'm on a confined area. So I don't want the blood everywhere. That's why I'm shing. 30:53 Therefore it's not a problem. You cannot go ahead and shhat into into a ditch or into an opening into the ground at all. Now, now remember that also contradicts a little bit what we just said before, but we'll deal with that. 31:12 But you can make a small hole, right? The small depression, not hole really opening, a little a little a little depression, a little hole, a little ditch in your home in order that the blood should drain into there. loyas. But ultimately again in the marketplace you cannot make a good you cannot make a hole a little ditch in the ground in order to collect the blood. 31:35 Incredible. Incredible. So we'll say remember all says why all of this I'm sorry they'll say because why in in the marketplace you can't do this in order not to go ahead and strengthen the hands of the take a look at the top says Ultimately 32:08 again because say when you do that so apparently this is what the sudukim used to do. The stukim would go ahead and the stukim would go ahead and apparently part of their part of their religious practice was to collect the blood in these ditches. So in order not to go ahead and replicate or reinforce the behaviors of the therefore he can't go ahead and collect blood in a ditch 32:31 specifically in the okay incredible says the 41 so I don't understand I can't she into the sea why can't I into the sea because it looks like I'm slaughtering and offering an animal for the angel of the sea So I don't understand this is fascinating why should I be able to go ahead and why should I be able to go ahead and she 33:07 even into means a small pool of water what's the concern with a small pool of water maybe it looks like I'm offering it up to my reflection right to my reflection I'm serving myself offering up to my reflection to which the gimar says What's the case over here? Rashi says Rashi says the says right when the when the Mishna gives you 33:33 a right to go ahead and shaft into shift into a little pool of water that's with murky water muddy water where you can't see your reflection say by the way this concept of having an issue with reflection actually doesn't have we know in the base in the base you have to cover mirror mirrors. So there's a number of different reasons why we cover mirrors. One is because in the eyes of 33:56 Kazal, so death is called the eraser of the human form and therefore again we kind of cover the mirrors. But the other idea which is a much more utilitarian idea is we dive in in a base model is you're not allowed to d opposite a mirror. Why can't you ding opposite a mirror? Intuitively looks self- serving. 34:16 If you're ding, right? Who who exactly are you dabbing to? So this idea this idea of having to be careful with your reflection. It's not just something over here by but it appears in other areas of as well. But what's interesting from the is the does make it sound like if you had a small pool of water in which you could see your reflection ultimately into that could actually be problematic. 34:39 Quite fascinating. Okay. So you can't go ahead and sh into a into a small ditch. So say here here here's the problem. The problem is the Mishna said you can't shed into a then what then what did the say then the said that in your house you can make a small to collect the blood. So which which one is 35:03 it? I understand you can't use a you can't use a to which that first statement that you can't sh with a that's talking about again a ditch in the marketplace that you can't do that's a no no under all circumstances why because say that's seduki like behavior and with soduki like behavior that's going to be problematic but here's the problem the end of the 35:33 said you can't do it in the so ultimately again said that you can't do it in the marketplace ultimately say so again which indicates to us that you can't do it in the sh right so again if the is talking about the then something else means to say in reality you can never shaft into a 36:00 depression in the ground into a small dish The logic behind that is because it looks like you're collecting the blood for some spiritually nefarious purpose. That's what it looks like. And therefore, under no circumstances can you shift into a ditch. I But what happens if I'm shifting in my right? I'm shing my in my in my in my yard and I don't want blood everywhere. 36:24 So what do I do? supposedly here's what you can do. The issue that comes up, the issue that comes up is directly into the GMA. But what can you do? You can check into a little channel that leads into the gumma. That's okay. 36:46 That's okay. Can't itself, but you can check into the channel that leads to the gumma. But in the marketplace, you just got to stay away from from gumas altogether. Why shall in order not to reinforce or strengthen the hands of the incredible that supports. 37:09 Let's say you're traveling by boat and you have no place on the boat, right? The skipper doesn't want you shafting on the pool deck, you know? So, like what what exactly, right? What what what are we going to do over here? say so the logical thing would be if I'm on a boat where do I sh do I shaft into the sea the problem is I can't she into the sea because the mishna said it looks 37:35 like I have all the come she into the so what can I do what it's very interesting so just extend your hand out and obviously the neck of the animal out outside of the boat essentially shacked in a way that the blood spurts against the side of the boat and then trickles down into the water. Similar ultimately again to what's happening 38:01 with the right. The idea over here is that into the channel and go ahead and have it go into the gumma not into the gumma itself. Good. [snorts] You can't sh into a into a ditch at all. 38:17 But again, so what happens if a person is he doesn't want blood everywhere? What does he do? Make a little area outside of the like a channel. And just thinking to yourself, come on, this seems like a bit crazy, but again, you have to understand is highlighting the idea that these were 38:42 known idolatrous practices. So it was a known idolatrous practice to shaft into the sea. It was a known idolatrist practice to sha into ditches. Right? These were idolatous practices. Because they were idolatous practice, you can't do them. So because you can't do them, kazal are giving us the workaround. So you're at sea, you can't she on the boat, extend your hand out a little bit, 39:05 she against the side of the boat, allow the blood to trickle in. You want you don't want blood all along your shed into a small channel that'll lead it into the but not the itself. But in the marketplace you can't do any of this. Why? 39:23 Because we'll say interestingly enough because the Torah says you shall not follow in the ways of of the gentile nations. So again say therefore again because this is what was done by the therefore in the marketplace you cannot do this at all in order not to follow along in the ways of the now I watch this it's actually pretty crazy what happens if someone did it what happens if someone did it someone into a ditch 39:48 right inside in the marketplace you have to investigate this guy now what do you what am I investigating Rashi says Rashi is supposed to towards the top in the short lines about four lines in because maybe the person is a min and maybe you should stop going ahead and eating his bread and drinking his wine. So say point over here is the telling us this is a serious thing. This 40:20 is a serious thing. These were these were well- entrenched well-known idolatist practices. And therefore if you see someone just ignore this warning of not to do this and they shack into a ditch again not saying the guy is anor but definitely again requires some level of investigation into the personality of this individual. 40:39 Incredible. Say this is a fascinating Mishna. If a person goes ahead and she for the per now again say I'm shifting a regular animal just a regular animal but I'm shifting it ultimately again for the purpose of for the purpose of Allah for the purpose of or the right for in general for anam 41:12 is points out to me here that the case of is something that is brought so he gives a good example of this let's say you have two pieces of meat in front of you one is one is baser one is baser what ends up happening I ate one of them but I don't know which one I ate so what's you have to bring what's called 41:35 an asham asham is a sin offering means kind of like suspended maybe I did something wrong maybe I didn't do something wrong but the problem just is it's possible that I did something wrong so because that I bring this unique carbon called a or I go ahead and I offer it or for the sake of a carbon in all of these cases 41:59 in all of these cases ultimately again myita is possible myita is possible remember I just want to point out over here what I'm doing in these cases I'm shifting a regular animal it's just a regular Wednesday I'm shing a regular animal but what I did is I ended up saying that I'm shifting this animal for these particular purposes says now what's the concern What's the concern? The concern that 42:25 Rashi points out over here is it looks like I'm carbonos outside of the and that's a big no no can't do that. So because we're so concerned that it looks like I'm actually says no it's not a problem is not worried about first line again we saw this case before two [snorts] people are holding the knife 42:59 one is she ultimately in for one of these purposes meaning one of these before and one of these purpose purposes was for here. One of these purposes means carbonic purposes and one was just for regular purposes. What's second wide line ultimately again the isle is very interesting. Second category, a person goes in and shs for the purpose 43:30 of person shacks for an or for the sake of in all of these cases the why is that what's the distinction and this is quite fascinating. any carbon that can be brought as a nether or meaning a voluntary offering. 44:04 If you shhat a regular animal to shame that carbon ultimately again the animal is why since because since it's voluntary someone could think that I'm going ahead and actually offering up a carbon and therefore is a punitive measure said your animal is when something is obligatory these says it's no there's no 44:28 maras because in obligatory offerings at the end of the >> [snorts] >> We are not concerned that a person's going to think that there's an actual carbon being offered up there. So quite fascinating says the so here's the problem. So now the problem is going to have his right. So let's go back to that first category. 44:46 What was the first category of items that the for these purposes ultimately again say in that category was right and now these are not voluntary offerings or at least some of them are not voluntary offerings could be involuntary offering but ultimately says well remember let's go back for a second 45:12 when you bring when you bring in when you bring two pieces of meat in front of me one is one is one is one is I ate one of them I'm not sure which one I ate so what do I do I bring that's it's not a voluntary offering that's an obligatory offering so what is it doing in the first category of the money wow we've seen this actually position of many times holds that if you want you 45:42 can bring in every day what's the logic behind that because actually a very overwhelming logic which is chances are I've done something wrong at any given moment right so because chances are I've done something wrong again not not intentionally not intentionally but because there's the possibility ultimately again that I've done something wrong at any given time therefore I could always offer an ashamal in rebar's worldview is actually 46:05 quite interesting asham tali is a net falls in the category of since it can be voluntary everyone else disagrees everyone else disagrees no you could only bring ashamal for a very specific infraction. What about why is in that first category? 46:23 I don't understand ultimately again is a voluntary offering. It has a set time. So is actually very interesting is different. Why? Because technically speaking, you could actually designate you can separate and designate the entire year. Take a quick look at Rashi. 46:44 is in the short lines six lines up before it gets wide. Really very interesting. You can separate out every single day of the year if you want. So this is actually interesting because PES can be designated and separated during the entire year. And again, we've seen this before. What's the if you offer up a current PES during the year, 47:16 what's its status? It's a schlam. So, because it can be separated the entire year. And because it can be offered up really technically at any time of the year, not as a pes, but as aim, therefore it falls under this category of a voluntary offering. 47:35 Furthermore, I said we only learned that this applies ultimately again to unblenmished animals. But I will say with a people know that it's not a carbon. In other words, when do we have to have this concern that that I'm offering up a carbon? That's only with an unblenmished animal. But with a blemished animal, even if I say I'm doing it for an it doesn't matter because everyone knows you can't offer 47:56 up a blemished animal as a says no even problematic. Why? Sometimes you put something over the and you can't see it. You can't see it. So therefore the unlooker will not see that the that the animal has a and therefore again will think that I'm actually offering up offering up a legitimate carbon which says such a profound skill as well. Sometimes sometimes it is easy 48:23 to mask a right when you have a m there's two ways to deal with it actually there's only one way to deal with it and that's to deal with it. The other alternative is just to mask it. So it's sometime people go through life masking their m instead of trying to find the courage ultimately again to go out and deal with it. So I will say we'll stop over for a day we'll finish the pract also just a tremendous last night we started our a tremendous to 48:48 Abramson for leading the last night we are looking for additional volunteers for it's a great opportunity it's not going to be gave like like a like a last night which was beautiful we're going to bring in a little bit more high level in general just to go through the general you saw those review the skills and everything we're doing also so that we walk away every day with the fundamental concepts of the if you are interested in 49:12 joining the khazur or you're interested in becoming one of the mid shir the poll is still on the WhatsApp chat it's it was beautiful but did a fantastic job and those who were here last night beautiful to come together in the base man tonight to review the daf still opportunity to get involved only the second night of the kabura tonight everyone runs into a great on the other end. And I am
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